i have been dfd since i turned 19, i aux, pioneered for a short time and then selfishly went after the fruits of the flesh.
smoking, sex, drinking, drugs, etc.... the thing i couldn't, or wouldn't, see at the time was that i was acting selfishly.
it didn't matter what others in the cong.
"jilted"
now, what exactly does that mean?
give me some "new light"...or is it "old light"?.....or somewhere in between?
Sorry, I have to put a little levity in this or I will have to go kick the walls...and my house is old and it might fall down! LOL
Will I ever loose the anger?
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
i have been dfd since i turned 19, i aux, pioneered for a short time and then selfishly went after the fruits of the flesh.
smoking, sex, drinking, drugs, etc.... the thing i couldn't, or wouldn't, see at the time was that i was acting selfishly.
it didn't matter what others in the cong.
Dear Roy,
I read your thread with such sadness. The loss of your children must be especially devistating. How could anyone justify doing this to someone else? But then, they have an expanation for everything they do don't they! And they have the unmitigated gall to call it the "truth"(pardon me while I go barf)...........................
OK, I'm back........
Dear GoingNuts,
Go back if you must. Being a "Stepford Wife" appeals to some people I guess. As for me, I bless the day when I was cut off from all of that religion (?) by the borg side of my family. It happened 20 years ago when the article of Sept 15, 1981 came out and they all decided they couldn't speak to me any longer. Now that the time has gone by and I see what screwed up children (drug adiction, mental illness) they have produced and all the sadness they have had in their lives. Only the everyday drudgery of endless boring meetings and people slamming their doors in their faces I realize what a favor they did me! I thank them everyday. Who knows, if they had only applied a little of that "loving kindness" they so often talk about but don't use much, I might be one of them today "shudder" "shudder".......I do, however, wish you the best. We all have to dance to our own music.
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
how many of u guys are sorta in btween right now, like me?
just curious... come across lotta things lately that make me not so convinced bout wut i been taught to blieve my whole life :|.
I invented it
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
how many of u guys are sorta in btween right now, like me?
just curious... come across lotta things lately that make me not so convinced bout wut i been taught to blieve my whole life :|.
Hey!!!!I'd like the keys to a new Jag! Where do I sign up? Does that nasty ole Lucifer have an 800 number?
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
this may take a while to explain, but if you read through and respond i'd appreciate it.
i became best friends with a jw about two years ago.
we were the best of friends.
**************It seems that you care for these two very much. for now though, there is nothing you can do except save yourself. by that i do *not* mean Jesus. I mean get an education, be physically fit and emotionally well balanced. Enjoy your time on earth, and do whatever you can do.********************
Dear Ethan,
These are wise words! Listen to them! As sad as it may seem, you can not save your sister. She is blinded by love (physical attraction?)But, you can be there for her if the time should come (and it may never) when she may want your comfort. I have family out there I have not seen for over 20 years simply because I don't want to be a member of their "chosen" religion (cult?). They have given up most of the joy in life for what they feel they will come to have in the future. "Betting on the come" is what they are doing. I feel sad for them. But there is nothing I can do but wait and hope that they will come to see the light (gosh is that a play on words?) about the cult of JWs.
Save yourself, Ethan, as that is all you can do......
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
disfellowshiping or ex-comunication puts great strain on family members, it has been successfully used by other religious groups jehovah's witness's are no exception.
any group or government that can successfully put a wedge between family members is a threat to the whole family of man.. by using such phrases or reasons as: its for their own good or its being done cause we love them, or we wakening them to their senses, are simply rationalizing their actions.. think about this: monkeys shun at times one of their own, but the one shunned most of the time dies from it; are we higher than monkeys in love?
humans also die if shunned or become mentally sick depressed to the point of at times taking their own life, because if one has been a witness or other shunning group for all or most of their life who is now a support group for them?
Dear Shane,
As someone who has also seen their family distroyed by the cruel practice of shunning by the JWs I just wanted to make a few comments.
We as humans have the power of reasoning and are able to make decisions for ourselves. I realize the cult has great power over the ones in their control but that DOES NOT relieve these people of the responsibilty for what they personally decide to do. If the Elders (Kingdom Hall Kangeroo Court) decide to dsfp someone (and it seams they can for any reason including "conduct unbecoming" (what a joke) they are each personally responsible for the damage they do.
The point I am getting to IS....We are each responsible for what we do. I hold every person involved with the tragedy in my family personally responsible! Right down to the lowly little JW who only went to their services at the kingdom hall. The excuse used by the members of my family who are JWs was that they were doing as God directed them (what a cop out).
I feel for you Shane. It's very hard to give up members of your family. I know because I've been there.
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
i am brand new here.
just thought i would add my "two cents worth" as they say.
i basically have become very hurt and feel so let down.
"evil contains the seeds of its own destruction"
Great concept!
To become a "worthy" JW you must...
1. start carrying your heart in your handbag.
2. be willing to give up every thread of human decentcy you ever owned.
3. be willing to treat those you are supposted to love like they are invisible.
4. be able to throw your friends (or were they ever anyway) away like yesterdays garbage.
and I could go on and on and on......
But each time I read a new story I hurt for that person. Vita, May your husband stay well. I think that woman who came to your house did you a favor (even though it hurt you alot). Are your eyes opened to their crueltys now?
They only love you when you are doing the bidding!
Isn't it interesting how they never take personal responsibility for the the rotten things they do? Its always "The WT, or "The Society", never them.
As the AA people say, keep coming back. It took me a while to post, and I'm liking it.
California Sunshine
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
i grew up with parents who hated jw's.
my grandmother was a secret.
witness,no one ever knew.
My mother was a schizophrenic and a JW. WOW, ain't that a pair to draw to!
She believed her stories and the voices that she heard even when the rest of us looked sadly on and knew it was all untrue. There was no reasoning with her. Medication helped when she would agree to take it.
Sorry Spinner, your posts remind me of her.
Your words are real to you...but honey, they don't make sense to me (I can't speak for the rest of us).
My heart goes out to you,
California Sunshine
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
can anyone out there ease my mind?
i am about to disassociate myself and feel so scared.
what if i'm making the wrong decision?
Dear Aud8,
In the end my dear, you must save yourself...
You are through the exit door, now RUN LIKE HELL!!
You are FREE!
It takes time to get over the fear instilled in you over the years by the JWs, but it will happen.
A toast to you (can you hear the tinkling of the glasses?), "Let the fun begin".
California Sunshine
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
i've been lurking on this board for a few months and realize i'm addicted so i finally decided to post.
i'm not a witness and never was - i was shunned before i could even begin to study because i asked too many hard questions and had the audacity to want to be engaged to jw.
the relationship ended when his 'loving family in the truth' told him they would shun him if he didn't break it off.
Hi to all you guys and ladies! Your stories are interesting, and some heartbreaking. Silver, you are lucky. I am lucky too. Although for a long time I just didn't know it. I have had the WTS in my life since my mother opened the door to them when I was 5 years old. I've often wondered what makes some people so saceptable to their bull-ona and others run like heck when they see them coming? I come from a family of 5 siblings. Two are witnesses and three are not. Why and how did three escape? I am just so thankful that I escaped!
This is the first time I have ever posted to a discussion group so have patience. I'm so glad you are all out there. My story is a long one and if you want to know I will try to give a little of it at a time.
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
